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Post by Hologram on Sept 15, 2007 8:50:34 GMT -5
Hopefully it'll stay low level. Perhaps these are citizens of the hideout going to colonize it because the place where nightmares come from is preventing more people from coming. Very low tier at first probobly, because these guys are helping set up a new settlement. Perhaps another character (Anathorian?) will come in and act as governer, kind of like Crystallis was in TNG. He'd be the most powerful one there hopefully. Perhaps WhiteInferno will come... man, this sounds good. Of course, it's up to Alyx, so this idea could be worthless. And also, I'd remind you that only HALF of the players actually posted more than once every two weeks. And sometimes when people didn't post *cough*vid*cough* other people couldn't post until they respond, until Alyx quit, and then Vid quit. So yeah, if we get enough people to join in and post consitantly then it'll work. If my first paragraph was completely wrong, please tell me to shut up, you don't know what your talking about. That won't be considered a flame
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Post by Videospirit on Sept 15, 2007 11:31:52 GMT -5
So yeah, if we get enough people to join in and post consitantly then it'll work. That's a big fucking if.
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Post by Alyx on Sept 15, 2007 23:03:52 GMT -5
Well. People choose there own characters etc. If crys and people are up for something like that then fine. I can do a main plot and you guys can start implementing your own plots etc as you want.
Just one thing, if you have a plot that will effect people on a global scale please run it by a GRP mod please, I would like the same three people for the new GRP, vid, Crys and I if they don't obect.
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Post by Videospirit on Sept 16, 2007 0:00:06 GMT -5
Well. People choose there own characters etc. If crys and people are up for something like that then fine. I can do a main plot and you guys can start implementing your own plots etc as you want. Just one thing, if you have a plot that will effect people on a global scale please run it by a GRP mod please, I would like the same three people for the new GRP, vid, Crys and I if they don't obect. I must of forgotten how to speak alyx, your last two posts have made very little sense to me. Oh, and were you crys and I ever on the GRP committee at the same time? I'm pretty sure I joined the committee when you left. I suppose I can at least do that much, I'm not sure if I'll make much in the way of characters until I've seen what interest other people have. We still need to figure out what the heck is going on with your idea though. You've stated interest in a new world of some sort. Is it inhabited? Is it related to the current hideout in anyway? You want the terrain specifics, I don't really care. The easiest thing to do would be add in every generic terrain type in close proximity to the central area, so mountain, forest, ocean, river, beach, plains, desert, and anything else you can think of. I am interested in running your idea and mine simultaneously though, since they don't contradict.
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Post by Hologram on Sept 16, 2007 8:43:33 GMT -5
Damn it, I had such a good post here. 4 paragraphs long. Anyways, the gist of it was maybe we should run both, as there is no reason why you can't run both, because they help each other. In RP's, you don't have as much time for personal development: It's all on the story. GRP might help that. Sometimes people in the GRP have to go on vacation, and it stalls since you can't just do something else, you have to wait, and people get bored. That's where RP's come in. But just because they help there doesn't mean they should only be run when the GRP can't. Sometimes it gets serious in the GRP, sometimes characters are too low level, or perhaps are busy elsewhere and can't logically return for the fight with the Big Bad. Maybe they just want to do something ELSE. Perhaps they want to have something that's like the GRP that has a completely different storyline. It would make sense to run both. Perhaps even (if the GRP Committee says it's ok) certain roleplays might become canon. Probobly not, but still. Vid, Alyx, and Crys probobly have the most experience with the GRP. It'd make sense for you all to be on the committee. Now, on to the thing that when I tried to type it it wiped out my entire post . Anyways, I think that along with terrain, we should try and figure out some other things (like vid said) so people can understand just what it's about. My ideas: Terrain: Jungle starting area, possibly plains elsewhere. Inhabitation: See relation to hideout Relation to Hideout: The Asylum has finally been declared off limits, not long after the start of the GRP committee, as the nightmare attacks are getting worse and people are changing into Nightmares more and more. The only ones allowed out there is a garrison on the fringe of the Asylum, to ensure that no Nightmares escape the Asylum and attack the city. This, however, leaves many people without a home, mostly poor. These people plea with King Crystallis to give them some kind of home. Crystallis decides to have his best mage (what was his name?) find an uninhabited plane, like the hideout, where these people can start anew. Anathorion and WhiteInferno go as well, Anathorian as the leader of the new colony, and WhiteInferno as his Bodyguard and right-hand man (I was trying to make WhiteInferno less of a silly, crazy, pyromaniac ninja and more of a person who actually worked hard, and had good ideas, although he has a sense of humor and wasn't very good at leading armys. He'd be good to help run the town guard though). Numerous others from the city also come, as mercenaries and explorers. No criminals who committed a crime worse than stealing some fruit to survive (Killing someone in the protection of your self and/or others was not considered a crime, as you were just defending yourself/helping someone. Least, that's how I thought it works) were allowed, as King Crystallis did not want this world spoiled by crime before it began (However, some might show up... just not the Mafia). Deciding to call this new world Nieuw Huis, a word from another plane that means 'New Home' (Dutch, actually, and I suppose the literal translation is 'House'. Still...), they step through the portal, with enough supplies to make a new town... (However, later on it might be discovered that people DO live there, or perhaps some kind of dangerous creature. Either way, this is the kind of GRP I'd love to be in.) My relation to the hideout is explained in big storyline mode, as that's what I thought of when we got the newly discovered world started. It may not be exactly like that (Perhaps someone else rather then WhiteInferno was the bodyguard, or Anathorion wasn't the governer, or the plane has a different name) but that's what I think it should be. The Governer and Bodyguard should pretty much have a 'command' role, where as the new characters will get most of the action, as those two working together would probobly be able to decimate anything that attacks early on. The Preplot should be the people working together to find a place to make a new town, to build walls, set up farms... This will probobly mostly occur by having NPC's build the town and Anathorian making designs for defensive emplacements (walls, turrents (As in castle turrents, not deathstar turrents) etc.). The new world will be untouched by the old Hideout, save perhaps a Royal Visit or trade agreement. The new characters will most likely be mercenaries or explorers. They will do what they want, but my character would join the Town Guard (no, it's not WhiteInferno. Although, he'll probably have heard the legend, and decided to train with leather armor, katana (Regular one), and light and fire magic.) as a scout, to help find new land and get rid of creature nests Anyways, that's what my idea for the plot was. Long winded, I know, but that's what I would REALLY love to do, and it gives a lot of room for RP potential. The Town Guard will need Soldiers (Guys who use swords only, probobly NPC's or new characters who train without magic), Scouts (Faster then Soldiers, less armored, probobly NPC archers or new characters who would work better this way (my character)), and Mages (Guys who use magic (duh), probobly most of the new characters or perhaps NPC's). However, that doesn't mean you have to join the town guard. You can be a private explorer, being paid by the Governer to help make maps and find new places to expand. You can be a shopkeeper, selling your wares to the new colonists. You could even be a private mercenary, protecting buisnesses from thieves. Or you could even BE a thief. You could be anything, and that's why I like this. It's low level, less focused on magic, more focused on interacting with regular people. And it makes SENSE to have it low level. I'm sorry, but TNG didn't make sense now that I think back. So, what are your ideas, and what do you think of mine?
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Post by Cavelcade on Sept 16, 2007 13:18:55 GMT -5
Oh hi I'll be in.
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Post by Videospirit on Sept 16, 2007 14:49:33 GMT -5
The next generation was "Come up with a plausible reason to remove your characters that aren't low level"
So it did make sense in character, it was just a HUGE coincidence.
So yeah, I'm liking this idea of running both Hideout Club and Neo Hideout at the same time.
Since yeah, all the cool people are gonna want to stay on the normal hideout, if this new plane was an attempt to finally get people to leave the asylum by giving them somewhere else to go, it's definitely not going to be a place for really high level people to go.
It doesn't necessarily have to be a plane like the hideout, it could just be an actual planet in some universe that has no sentient life, but may possess wildlife. Actually, a planet would be better than a universe, since one of my biggest concerns with next gen was the hideout was damn small, little room to expand. There could have once been a sentient civilization there, and I expect ancient trinkets from neo hideout might become a fad on the actual hideout so they'd become valuable, might lead to adventurers seeking them out.
White seems to want to make the portal come out in the middle of a forest, which is probably one of the worst possible places to start a town. Typically a low maintenance town is going to want water access, arable land, and a nearby lumber source. Flood plains are very popular for this. Although if the river runs through the forest, you could set up a town near there, you'd just have to chop down a lot of trees to make room for farms, and it'd be a whole lot more work.
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Post by Warlock on Sept 16, 2007 23:25:40 GMT -5
However, later on it might be discovered that people DO live there, or perhaps some kind of dangerous creature. Well, OBVIOUSLY there will be aliens there. Between you and Vid you've covered pretty much all the typical sci-fi cliches for a new planet. Heck, we could do any and all of these typical plots: 1. The planet is inhabited... by ravenous alien monsters! How long can the colonists survive? 2. The planet is inhabited... by people just like us! How will the colonists deal with these aliens who are so strange, yet so familiar? ---There are some variations on this involving the technological advancement of the aliens. You know what they are if you've seen sci-fi. 3. The planet WAS inhabited... by a powerful ancient race that suddenly disappeared! The colonists must decode their ancient secrets before a great evil engulfs the galaxy/universe/whatever.
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Post by Videospirit on Sept 17, 2007 9:14:05 GMT -5
I like 3 the best. They don't need a peril though.
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Post by Hologram on Sept 17, 2007 16:09:02 GMT -5
Vid, that's a point... hmm...
Maybe a different starting area. And yeah, a planet would probobly be better.
3 works, but I really don't want that kind of thing to start while your setting up a town.
I mean, you don't raid the enemy base BEFORE you have an army.
And it makes sense that Anathorion and White would go as Anathorion would prove he could run a governement, while White would gain experience as a competent leader and strategist.
This seems to be working out great... Especially with the RP's. They could even have seperate missions about things taking place on the hideout (Perhaps a string of robberies, you are hired to catch the crooks, etc.) or anywhere else in the GRP style universe.
Alyx, you want to put your 2 cents in?
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Post by Crystallis on Sept 17, 2007 17:09:58 GMT -5
The wizard you're apparently thinking of is Ralon.
Two questions, though:
-How long did this migration thing happen after the start of Next Gen? This is important for a number of reasons, including Anathorion's feelings about being thrust into a leadership position (he was still pretty young and restless at the start of Next Gen).
-How long after the original migration will the RP take place? It sounds like you want to do it, like, right after, but I wasn't quite sure.
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Post by Videospirit on Sept 17, 2007 17:30:29 GMT -5
Those are both good questions.
And yeah, White's the one who said Anathorion should be a sort of leader figure.
Personally, I don't think Crystallis would send someone to lead the colony, so the colony would probably elect its own.
The colony being formed by asylum evacuees, Anathorion being a sort of hero figure to them, and Anathorion being the son of a well respected leader, and a not so well respected leader, would probably boost his chances of getting the position if he wanted it considerably.
And there's a chance they'd ask him to be the leader, and have no other candidates, would he turn them down?
But yeah, This would probably happen within a year of the start of nextgen.
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Post by Hologram on Sept 17, 2007 19:02:55 GMT -5
/agree
Except for the part about Crystallis not sending a leader. I figured Anathorion as he would need leadership experience (Not battle leadership, state (as in nation) leadership). Also, the part about not sending along a leader: I disagree. If you have your mages tasked for a few months working on something, provide all the materials to make a small colony, and allow trade, you'd want to be in control.
And I didn't even think of the whole hero angle. They'd probably ask Crystallis to get Anathorion to be their leader, or some such. WhiteInferno is the bodyguard as I don't know of any other characters that would fit that role as well without taking away a guard from crystallis (Ralon or that sword guy). Plus, it'd help him to learn to be more leader than joker.
Remember, these two will also probably end up not doing much except making leadership decisions, and perhaps helping set up the town. I don't really see Anathorion or White just letting other people do the work.
WARNING-OFF TOPIC CONTENT: Anyone got the URL for the Avatar Maker Vid and I and Crys used before? I want to make a new one for the new character.
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Post by Videospirit on Sept 17, 2007 20:18:45 GMT -5
charas-project.net/I don't even have that thing bookmarked, I just google charas rpg whenever I want it.
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Post by Alyx on Sept 17, 2007 22:33:13 GMT -5
YAY. Any other things before I type out the generic info and let you have at it?
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